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SAPPHIRE V2 - development

#1
Om een nog betrouwbaarder, betaalbaarder en aanpasbaar licht te creëren dat voldoet aan een groter aantal vereisten, besloot ik om een nieuwe versie van Sapphire te gaan ontwikkelen met enkele verbeteringen. Hier vindt u alle ontwikkelingsstappen en tests die dit licht op de markt brengen;
Ik nodig jullie allemaal uit om het concept te herzien, ideeën voor te stellen over functies en verbeteringen van het licht enz.

Alle deelnemers aan deze discussies doen mee aan een wedstrijd voor een gratis Sapphire V2

Bedankt


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db75Reef

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#2
Ten slotte heb ik bijna de laatste versie van de powerboard voltooid - te gebruiken op goedkopere versies van Sapphire - omvat 4 kanalen + automatische ventilatorregeling (onafhankelijk van de controller). Wordt mogelijk gevolgd door een andere versie met 6 kanalen voor de meest veeleisende klanten;

Hij is klein (100 x 50 mm) maar kan meer dan 200 W aan LED's leveren

De ontwerpbestanden zien er als volgt uit:

Opmerkingen / suggesties?

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Sander.R

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#3
Persoonlijk zou ik kiezen voor een LED armatuur met passieve koeling. Tevens bij voorkeur een armatuur met een groot oppervlakte spreiding inplaats van een lichtbron met een sterke LED bundel (ietwat als lani led of de coralcare) :)

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timm

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#4
I personally would like to see mounting felixibility. E.g. create a modular fixture which can be sized to any tank debt and it would be nice if you could change the angle to light areas which would otherwise be shaded. Expecially if you have 2 lights and mount each on on the outside of the tank. At the moment I have a kessil AP700 and the restricted mounting option makes me actually want to sell the light, despite this being the light I always wanted. If you could make a grove in the shape of half a circle in the attachment points (where I see now 3 holes to secure the light), then a user can choose the angle. Apart from that I feel an arm with different lenghts and the ability to slide 1 into the other would be a great feature. And making suse the user can choose any lenght to fit his/her tank.. likited options are great disappointed in my opinion. Apart from that I think the sleek and small design make it look sharp. This is the reason I wouldn't like to have a coral care even if it was for free.
 
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#5
Persoonlijk zou ik kiezen voor een LED armatuur met passieve koeling. Tevens bij voorkeur een armatuur met een groot oppervlakte spreiding inplaats van een lichtbron met een sterke LED bundel (ietwat als lani led of de coralcare) :)

Mvg, Sander
Dit type licht bied ik al als Barracuda - groot oppervlak, passieve koeling, modulair (veel lampen kunnen samen worden gemonteerd om bijvoorbeeld grote oppervlakken van Lani aan te bieden).
Sapphire moet klein en betaalbaar zijn, maar nog steeds van hoge kwaliteit;
 
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#6
I personally would like to see mounting felixibility. E.g. create a modular fixture which can be sized to any tank debt and it would be nice if you could change the angle to light areas which would otherwise be shaded. Expecially if you have 2 lights and mount each on on the outside of the tank. At the moment I have a kessil AP700 and the restricted mounting option makes me actually want to sell the light, despite this being the light I always wanted. If you could make a grove in the shape of half a circle in the attachment points (where I see now 3 holes to secure the light), then a user can choose the angle. Apart from that I feel an arm with different lenghts and the ability to slide 1 into the other would be a great feature. And making suse the user can choose any lenght to fit his/her tank.. likited options are great disappointed in my opinion. Apart from that I think the sleek and small design make it look sharp. This is the reason I wouldn't like to have a coral care even if it was for free.

Timm,

thanks for nice suggestions;
Flexibility is the top priority of my systems - depend by power required, LEDs on this light can be 80°, 120° or 150°.
The system as presented in bellow drawing allow you to move lights back and forth (actually the whole mount system on the tank), move the light position left/righ on that rail, also rotate the light left/right (your suggestion with slotted holes is nicer - now I relied only on mid-hole for the rotation);
By adding a small joint between light and rail behind can add and extra rotation degree (can rise or lower the front side of light)

Can add later simple arms mounted from behind, but honestly I really dont like metal clamped to glass solutions - eventually an arm mounted on tank stand furniture, not on glass

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timm

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#7
Timm,

thanks for nice suggestions;
Flexibility is the top priority of my systems - depend by power required, LEDs on this light can be 80°, 120° or 150°.
The system as presented in bellow drawing allow you to move lights back and forth (actually the whole mount system on the tank), move the light position left/righ on that rail, also rotate the light left/right (your suggestion with slotted holes is nicer - now I relied only on mid-hole for the rotation);
By adding a small joint between light and rail behind can add and extra rotation degree (can rise or lower the front side of light)

Can add later simple arms mounted from behind, but honestly I really dont like metal clamped to glass solutions - eventually an arm mounted on tank stand furniture, not on glass

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To be honest, I wouldn't purchase this mount, of course, tastes differ, but what I currently think of this is:
- the light is positioned below the mounting rail, as it is not on the same hight it does not look nice
- the rail is not in-line, lengthwise, with the led unit, the bar is in full sight on the sides and not hidden "behind" the unit (it is not "in the extension" of the unit)
- the stabilization feet of the fixture is also in sight. I "think" most aquarists would like to hide this as much as possible, the size of these feet will not promote a clean look (especially if the user has only 1 small led-unit like this one, the fixture seems rather large in comparison).
 
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#8
To be honest, I wouldn't purchase this mount, of course, tastes differ, but what I currently think of this is:
- the light is positioned below the mounting rail, as it is not on the same hight it does not look nice
- the rail is not in-line, lengthwise, with the led unit, the bar is in full sight on the sides and not hidden "behind" the unit (it is not "in the extension" of the unit)
- the stabilization feet of the fixture is also in sight. I "think" most aquarists would like to hide this as much as possible, the size of these feet will not promote a clean look (especially if the user has only 1 small led-unit like this one, the fixture seems rather large in comparison).
this is the first proposal of mount; others will come as well;
This, as ugly as it is have a profile of only 2 cm (can be kept at 1 cm for smaller tanks thou) and have very low costs comparing with other methods;
Some people doesnt want lights hanging from ceiling, others dont want clamping on glass, others dont want drilling the furniture of tank and also to be durable and custom for every size of tanks on market.... not easy :)
 

timm

Senior Forumlid
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this is the first proposal of mount; others will come as well;
This, as ugly as it is have a profile of only 2 cm (can be kept at 1 cm for smaller tanks thou) and have very low costs comparing with other methods;
Some people doesnt want lights hanging from ceiling, others dont want clamping on glass, others dont want drilling the furniture of tank and also to be durable and custom for every size of tanks on market.... not easy :)
True, it is difficult to design a one-size-fits-all design. If the legs are max 1 cm thick it will be a different story of course. Maybe the picture skews the actual size, it looks like the rail is a least 4 cm thick.
 
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db75Reef

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True, it is difficult to design a one-size-fits-all design. If the legs are max 1 cm thick it will be a different story of course. Maybe the picture skews the actual size, it looks like the rail is a least 4 cm thick.
Light is very small, this is why mounting looks big ; Indeed, this system is more suited for large tanks, where few heavy lights have to be mounted; For nanos I have another idea - will come soon here; In the end, this Sapphire is small enough that most of standard "goose necks" mountings are OK with it;
 
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#11
Hier is de eerste versie van het LED-bord. Kan 19 LED's gebruiken, als een mix van Luxeon, Cree en Osram, kan de klant op bestelling kiezen welk type LED's de voorkeur heeft, etc ;
Dit is de reden van "paralelposities" - hetzelfde bord dat een breed scala aan LED's ondersteunt;

Op "koperlaag" -weergave is zichtbaar hoe LED's zijn aangesloten, maar ook hoe groot thermische kussens zijn om een maximale warmteoverdracht te verschaffen;

Afmeting van het bord is 150 x 100 mm

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